Monday, December 10, 2012

Egyptian Reporter Given a Disturbing Look Inside the Muslim Brotherhood’s ‘Torture Chambers’

Muslim Brotherhood Torture Chambers: Egyptian Paper al Masry al Youm Gets Inside Look
This disturbing revelation came to light just days ago when an al-Masry al-Youm reporter, with the help of a Brotherhood-owned and operated television station, was given an exclusive tour of the torture chambers. While one might think the decision to grant a journalist access to such a chilling look into the way the Muslim Brotherhood treats its critics as counter-intuitive, it makes perfect sense. After all, what could possibly ever serve as better warning for those even thinking of resisting Morsi’s push for a totalitarian regime based on sharia law than to know what will happen to them if they do?

Al-Monitor reports that the central torture chamber is located near the Ittihadiya Palace, just opposite the gates facing the Omar Ibn Abdel Aziz Mosque. The street is reportedly “secured with a cordon and iron barriers, where the Central Security Forces (CSF) barr any and all access without the authorization of the Brotherhood.

During the three-hour visit, the al-Masry reporter explained that “protesters suspected of working against the Muslim Brotherhood are tortured and beaten with the knowledge of the police before being handed over for formal detention.”

Al-Monitor provides an English translation of the al-Masry reporter’s account:
We entered the chamber with a great difficulty, after a fellow journalist from the Misr 25 TV channel facilitated. The channel is owned by the Brotherhood. There are brigades and police officers in military uniforms, as well as others in civilian clothes from al-Nozha police station, who oversee the beatings, whippings and torture. Fifteen others from the group, distinguished by their strong bodies, are supervised by three bearded and well-dressed men who decide who will be in the chamber and who may leave, even if the person is a member of the Brotherhood.
The torture process starts once a demonstrator who opposes President Mohammed Morsi is arrested in the clashes or is suspected after the clashes end, and the CSF separate Morsi’s supporters from his opponents. Then, the group members trade off punching, kicking and beating him with a stick on the face and all over his body. They tear off his clothes and take him to the nearest secondary torture chamber, from which CSF personnel, members of the Interior Ministry and the State Security Investigations Services (SSIS) are absent.
While perhaps not shocking to those who have long known of the Brotherhood’s penchant for violence and history as the parent of all major Islamic extremist groups (including al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, et al), the accounts are heartrending nonetheless. The torture was conducted right before the al-Masry reporter’s eyes in the hopes that he would share the information with fellow Egyptians as a warning.

“They tear off his clothes and take him to the nearest secondary torture chamber, from which CSF [Central Security Forces -ed.] personnel, members of the Interior Ministry and the State Security Investigations Services (SSIS) are absent,” the al-Masry journalist reported. He went on to explain that before a Muslim Brotherhood-led interrogation commences, they search an alleged dissident “seizing his funds, cellphones or ID, all the while punching and slapping his face in order to get him to confess to being a thug and working for money.”

“They ask him why he took to the street, whether he got paid to take part in the protest and whether he supports Mohamed ElBaradei, founder of the Constitution Party, or Hamdeen Sabahi, founder of the Egyptian Popular Current or the dissolved Egyptian Nationalist movement,” the al-Masry reporter continued before explaining that the entire interrogation process is recorded on video by the Brotherhood-operated news channel.

“As long as this person denies the allegations, they beat him and insult his parents.” Al-Masry adds:
Beatings continued while the victims were transported from the secondary torture chamber to the central one. Many of the prisoners were unable to answer questions after severe beatings, and they were not given medical aid despite bleeding over their entire bodies.
Once the protesters are handed over to the police, the Muslim Brotherhood thugs fall out of the picture.
“We left the place and found blood flowing on the sidewalk of the palace,” the journalist continued.

“Someone had tried to cover the blood with soil to remove it. However, no one will be able to clean the image of this blood from the memory of Egyptians for hundreds of years.”

Al-Monitor’s translation continued in even greater detail, revealing that young prisoner was found shouting at fellow inmates that he, himself is a “bearded sheikh,” and that “Sheikh Safwat Hijazi will avenge me…I am a Muslim just like you.”

According to the report, a man accused of representing the former leader of the People’s Assembly took the brunt of the beatings while another man who’d been bloodied said, “I am educated. I am not a thug, leave me alone.”

Of course it comes as no surprise that the prisoners currently being held in captivity are reportedly in poor health so much so that they were unable to answer even simple questions. “Some of them were bleeding all over their bodies, severely exhausted and not receiving any medical aid,” the report continued.

The picture featured above is, according to al-Masry, of one of the detainees.

Operation Patriot Christmas – Because of You

By Craig Andresen/ The National Patriot

Because of you…

Right now, Christmas cards are being sorted and sent to places all around the world.

The National Patriot’s “Operation Patriot Christmas” asked you, our readers, to send Christmas cards to our troops both in the field and in hospitals and you…YOU responded!!!

Because of you…THOUSANDS of our military heroes will have a Merrier Christmas.

In the days and weeks to come, those cards…The cards YOU sent via

Holiday Mail for Heroes
P.O. Box 5456
Capitol Heights, MD 20791-5456

Will be delivered.

We asked that each reader send 20 cards which means that soldiers, stationed in faraway places defending our freedoms and the freedoms of others will see YOUR messages of good will.

Soldiers recovering from injury in our military hospital will read YOUR messages of hope.

Christmas cards from people they never met, lifting their spirits.

Christmas cards from Patriots who understand how hard it is to be away from home, away from family and from friends.

What a remarkable gift YOU have given.

YOUR Christmas card at a bedside table, pinned to the side of a tent, displayed in a mess hall or tucked into a pack or inside a uniform.

The responses we received at The National Patriot, on FB and on Twitter when we asked for your help were fantastic!!!

Your willingness to spend just a few dollars and a little time to help those who protect us was wonderful.

Watch this short video to see what your cards and messages mean to those who receive them.

We don’t know if we’ll hear from those who receive your cards but, know that if we do, we will pass along any message they send.

As Christmas draws near, and we make our plans for celebration, travel to family and friends, eat our meals and open packages, we now ask that you think of those who don’t have that opportunity this year.

Keep our soldiers in your thoughts and prayers but, not just those soldiers. Keep also in your prayers their families.

The thousands of Christmas cards generated by our Operation Patriot Christmas will join more than a million more from around the country. Pitney Bowes will sort them and they will be hand delivered to the troops by the Red Cross.

YOUR thoughts and message are now in their hands and will soon be in the hands of our military men and women wherever they might be.

Thank you.

Thank you for taking part in our Operation Patriot Christmas and thank you for keeping our heroes in your thoughts and prayers.

The National Patriot will continue to search out ways for you, our Patriot readers, to reach out to those who serve and protect our nation.

Thanking our Members of the military when we see them never seems like enough and neither does thanking you, our readers, for your kindness but…Thank you…For all you do.

A year after Ground Zero Mosque controversy, "community center" that developers insisted was not a mosque is just a...mosque

From Jihad Watch / Posted by Robert Spencer

The New York Post says here that the Park51 "community center" opened "with great fanfare," and it certainly did. Reporters from all over contacted Pamela Geller and me, asking us for comment on the "fact" that we had "lost," that the "community center" was opening despite our opposition. But this was a case of a defeated side declaring victory and getting out, a la Vietnam. As we had both made repeatedly clear when we led the national opposition to the Ground Zero Mosque, we were well aware that Muslims were gathering for prayers in the Burlington Coat Factory building that had been extensively damaged in the September 11, 2001 attacks, and had no objection to that.

What we were objecting to was the planned sixteen-story mega-mosque that the grifter Sharif El-Gamal and the unsavory and dishonest Islamic supremacists Faisal Abdul Rauf and Daisy Khan planned to build on that site after they tore down the Burlington Coat Factory building, as that would have been a triumphal mosque built on the site of a jihad victory, like the Al-Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount. Once Americans voiced their opposition in huge numbers to that planned victory mosque, and we exposed the developers' Islamic supremacist ties and many shady financial dealings, the project was put on indefinite hold. But El-Gamal and his Leftist sycophants in the mainstream media were not about to admit defeat; instead, they announced -- with great fanfare indeed -- the opening of the Park51 Cultural Center, in the same severely damaged Burlington Coat Factory building. They held a few sad and tatty "events" there, again to great fanfare, and then, when the media frenzy died down, went back to doing the only thing they had been doing in that building all along: holding Islamic prayer.

So it is a mosque, just as we always said it would be in the teeth of their disingenuous denials (which were uncritically and insistently repeated in the mainstream media), but it is not the 16-story mega-mosque of triumph they had wanted to build, and which had been the focus of our objections. So the real victory was ours. And if El-Gamal or anyone else ever tries again to build the triumphal mosque, we'll be back.

This article from the New York Post, even though it again exposes El-Gamal's dishonesty, glosses over that central fact. Take a look at how many people in the comments section there are saying that this mosque "should never have been built." But that's the thing: it wasn't built. This non-center is still in the damaged Burlington Coat Factory building. The Post was severely remiss not to point that out.

"No community programs at ‘Ground Zero’ mosque a year after the controversy," by Isabel Vincent and Melissa Klein in the New York Post, December 9:
It’s all pray and no play.
The Islamic cultural center near Ground Zero that opened with great fanfare a year ago is now an empty space with no community programs.
And while the developers behind Park51 insisted for two years that the project was more than a mosque, it now appears to be just that. Dozens of worshipers gather at the site on Park Place Friday for prayer services — but that’s the only activity in the building.
Gone are the Arabic classes, workshops in calligraphy, talks on the genealogy of Muslims in America, film screenings and art exhibits. The sole community event is a class in capoeira — an Afro-Brazilian martial art that combines dance and music. The teacher of the twice-weekly class said she has five students.
“We are the only cultural program that is still there,” said Luz Emma Canas Jesus, of Capoeira Mucurumim.
The Park51 Twitter feed was last updated in June, and its Web site lists no events. The Web site for the mosque, formally called Prayer Space, lists four services a day, and a handwritten note on the building’s window also advertises a 4 a.m. service.
Park51 organizers repeatedly refused to answer questions about what happened to the programs offered last fall and spring. Sharif El-Gamal, the lead developer behind the project, ducked out the women’s entrance for the prayer space and would not speak to a reporter.
Just two years ago, El-Gamal’s grand plans for the site — a $100 million, 15-story community center and prayer space — generated worldwide controversy because of its proximity to the Ground Zero site.
At the photography exhibit that kicked off the opening of a scaled-down center in September 2011, El-Gamal admitted he erred in not including families who lost loved ones on Sept. 11 in the planning process.
Development plans are now in limbo over fund-raising for the project and a dispute with Con Ed, which owns half the site. In 2009, El-Gamal’s company bought half the property, which once housed a Burlington Coat Factory store, for $4.8 million, and leased the other half from the utility. It is seeking to buy that part of the property.
Con Ed threatened to evict Park51 a year ago over $1.7 million in unpaid back rent.
El-Gamal’s company then sued Con Ed, claiming its appraisal for the property was wrong and the formula to figure the rent was inaccurate. A judge ruled in Con Ed’s favor on the appraisal, and the rent lawsuit is continuing with the next court date set for Tuesday.
In an interview last year, El-Gamal said he was exploring other uses of the property, including an office tower or condominiums. He said a prayer space would remain part of the project.

The GOP's not-so-secret weapon on fiscal cliff

'We are facing 4 years of unpleasantness for Obama'

by Jerome R. Corsi / WND Exclusive

WASHINGTON – The only way to prevent the Obama administration from blaming Republicans in the fiscal cliff debate is to demand transparency by bringing in television cameras, says noted tax activist Grover Norquist.

What advice would Norquist give House Speaker John Boehner?

“Bring in C-SPAN and televise the negotiations,” Norquist, president and founder of Americans for Tax Reform told WND in an exclusive interview.

“It’s the best way to expose the White House plan to build public pressure on Republicans to force House Speaker John Boehner to cave into at the eleventh hour to raise income-tax rates on the wealthiest Americans.

Norquist advised that Congressional Republicans should use the fiscal cliff crisis as an opportunity to make a vocal demand that President Obama must live up to his often repeated promise to make government transparent by opening up administration tax debates with Congress to C-SPAN cameras.

“The fiscal cliff is not a one-time crisis,” Norquist warned. “If Republicans in Congress play their cards right, we are facing four years of unpleasantness for Obama.

Norquist explained that immediately following the fiscal cliff argument over raising federal income-tax rates on the wealthiest Americans, there will be a renewed debate in Congress over raising the federal debt-ceiling level.

Then in March and April, the White House will have to return to Congress for continuing resolutions to keep the government functioning.

Without an annual budget, there is no way the Obama administration can keep the federal government operating unless Congress passes continuing resolutions.

“The continuing resolution battle is every bit as exciting a leverage point to control federal spending as is the debate over the federal debt ceiling,” Norquist argued.

“Two years ago, the Republicans in Congress passed continuing resolutions for two or three weeks at a time and made Obama pay for every continuing resolution with a small savings. Obama couldn’t shut the federal government down over $3 or $4 billion over a cut he already agreed to make, and the Republicans were moving down the field three yards at a time, and there’s nothing wrong with winning slowly.”

The strategy of passing a series of short-term continuing resolutions would allow the Republicans to negotiate in exchange a series of spending cuts that would provide victories for the GOP in Congress.

“If the Obama administration would implement a Simpson-Bowles reform that retiring federal employees should not get replaced by hiring a new employee, that would result in a quantifiable savings in federal spending that the Republicans in Congress,” Norquist pointed out.

“Forcing upon the administration reform measures that Obama has opposed in the past, the Republicans can get credit by claiming Republicans in Congress imposed by their will spending the president otherwise never would have made.”

WND has previously reported Norquist’s concern that the White House push to utilize the fiscal cliff crisis as an opportunity to force the Republicans to raise income-tax rates on the wealthiest Americans would be followed by Democratic efforts to pass a massive energy tax, as well as a value-added tax, or VAT, on the U.S. economy.

Norquist predicted Obama would push the fiscal cliff down to the wire.

“There is every reason to believe that Obama as a deliberate strategy wants to push the crisis over the fiscal cliff,” he speculated.

“Obama would like to be able to blame Republicans for the lousy economy that is already baked into the cake because of Obama administration regulations and tax increases the Obama administration has already passed through measures like Obamacare.”

But Norquist insisted the pressure on Boehner to cave only mounts if Obama manages to convince the American public that it’s the Republicans’ fault.

“That’s why I’m an advocate of putting the tax negotiations on C-SPAN,” Norquist insisted. “Otherwise the Obama administration and their friends in the mainstream media will work together in secret to write the narrative of the fiscal cliff debate that says the Republicans deserve the blame for a bad economy.”

Mexican Migration May Be Over

Mexican Migration May Be Over
Is mass migration from Mexico to the United States a thing of the past? 

At least for the moment, it is. Last May, the Pew Hispanic Center, in a study based on U.S. and Mexican statistics, reported that net migration from Mexico to this country had fallen to zero from 2005 to 2010.

Pew said 20,000 more people moved to Mexico from the United States than from there to here in those years. That's a vivid contrast with the years 1995 to 2000, when net inflow from Mexico was 2.2 million people.

Because there was net Mexican immigration until 2007, when the housing market collapsed and the Great Recession began, it seems clear that there was net outmigration from 2007 to 2010, and that likely has continued in 2011 and 2012.

There's a widespread assumption that Mexican migration will resume when the U.S. economy starts growing robustly again. But I think there's reason to doubt that will be the case.

Over the past few years, I have been working on a book, scheduled for publication next fall, on American migrations, internal and immigrant. What I've found is that over the years this country has been peopled in large part by surges of migration that have typically lasted just one or two generations.

Almost no one predicted that these surges of migration would occur, and almost no one predicted when they would end.

For example, when our immigration system was opened up in 1965, experts testified that we would not get many immigrants from Latin America or Asia. They assumed that immigrants would come mainly from Europe, as they had in the past.

Experts have also tended to assume that immigrants are motivated primarily by economic factors. And in the years starting in the 1980s, many people in Latin America and Asia, especially in Mexico, which has produced more than 60 percent of Latin American immigrants, saw opportunities to make a better living in this country.

But masses of people do not uproot themselves from familiar territory just to make marginal economic gains. They migrate to pursue dreams or escape nightmares.

Life in Mexico is not a nightmare for many these days. Beneath the headlines about killings in the drug wars, Mexico has become a predominantly middle-class country, as Jorge Castaneda notes in his recent book, "Manana Forever?" Its economy is growing faster than ours.

And the dreams that many Mexican immigrants pursued have been shattered.

You can see that if you look at the statistics on mortgage foreclosures, starting with the housing bust in 2007.

More than half were in the four "sand states" -- California, Nevada, Arizona and Florida -- and within them, as the Pew Hispanic Center noted in a 2009 report, in areas with large numbers of Latino immigrants.

These were places where subprime mortgages were granted, with encouragement from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, to many Latinos unqualified by traditional credit standards.

These new homeowners, many of them construction workers, dreamed of gaining hundreds of thousands of dollars as housing prices inevitably rose. Instead, they collapsed. My estimate is that one-third of those foreclosed on in these years were Latinos. Their dreams turned into nightmares.

We can see further evidence in last month's Pew Research report on the recent decline in U.S. birthrates.

The biggest drop was among Mexican-born women, from 455,000 births in 2007 to 346,000 in 2010.

That's a 24 percent decline, compared with only a 6 percent decline among U.S.-born women. It's comparable to the sharp decline in U.S. birthrates in the Depression years from 1929 to 1933.

Beneath the cold statistics on foreclosures and births is a human story, a story of people whose personal lives have been deeply affected by economic developments over which they had no control and of which they had no warning.

Those events have prompted many to resort to, in Mitt Romney's chilly words, "self-deportation." And their experiences are likely to have reverberations for many others who have learned of their plight.

Surges of migration that have shaped the country sometimes end abruptly. The surge of Southern blacks to Northern cities lasted from 1940 to 1965 -- one generation. The surge of Mexicans into the U.S. lasted from 1982 to 2007 -- one generation.

The northward surge of American blacks has never resumed. I don't think the northward surge of Mexicans will, either.

Time to Stop the Debt Charade

Time to Stop the Debt Charade

The crisis du jour in Washington now dominating the news, the so-called “fiscal cliff”, is but the latest in seemingly endless political crises that we shouldn’t be having.

We get two different kinds of problems in life. The real ones – the struggle to work and improve the quality of our lives – and the ones we bring on ourselves through poor behavior.

The more time we must deal with the latter type, the less time and energy we have to deal with life’s real problems and challenges.

The political crises which emanate from Washington are invariably problems of the type that result from poor behavior. And this latest, the “fiscal cliff”, is no exception.

Let’s recall that the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that are scheduled to occur January – the “fiscal cliff” – are the result of the failure of Republicans and President Obama to agree on a budget deal as condition for raising the debt ceiling last year.

Why do we have to keep raising the debt ceiling? Because politicians are afraid to be honest with the American people and immediately raise taxes to pay for all their new spending. So instead of raising taxes and paying for our new bills when we incur them, they just borrow the money.

Anybody who doesn’t pay the full balance on their credit card bill each month knows what this is about.

Except there’s one big difference. You run up your credit card bill on your own account. You are the one that is on the line for your own bills.

Politicians run up bills on our account. We’re on the line for what they spend.

They could be honest. When they have their wonderful ideas about what they want to spend our money on, they could go right to taxpayers and say we are going to spend X for Y so we will raise your taxes Z to pay for it. OK?

They don’t do this because they know it is not okay. Politicians know that the money they are spending ultimately will come out of every American household. And if they go to those households, to those actually responsible to pay the bills, and the heads of those households know they don’t have the money, they will say “NO”. Don’t spend the money and don’t raise my taxes.

So politicians don’t ask.

And our constitution, which originally was supposed protect the property of citizens, is now so degraded that they can do this.

They just spend the money and borrow, on our behalf – often from those overseas like the Chinese – to pay the bills.

Then they tell the American people about all the great ideas they are spending money on. Bail out companies that have failed. Green energy. Extend unemployment benefits so you can collect for four years. And so on.

It all sounds so wonderful and innovative and compassionate. And even better – somebody else is paying for it all. We think.

Now our debt, at over $16 trillion, is bigger than our whole economy. More than 100% of our GDP.

Investment guru Bill Gross, of PIMCO in Newport Beach, California, has been writing that the “new normal” for economic growth in the US will be below its historic average.

What is one of the major reasons why? He cites research by Harvard economists Carmen Reinhart and Ken Rogoff which shows that “for the past 200 years, once a country exceeded 90 percent debt/GDP ratio, economic growth slowed by nearly 2 percent….for an average duration of nearly a decade.”

Part of President Obama’s proposal to bypass the “fiscal cliff” is to get rid of the requirement that Congress must approve increases in the debt limit. I wonder why?

It’s time for responsible behavior and hard choices. If we can’t just cut spending, let the “fiscal cliff” kick in.

The AFL-CIO has called on its members to sign a petition opposing a United Nations bid to regulate the Internet.

“A group of giant Internet corporations and countries, including China, Egypt and Saudi Arabia—countries that already impose heavy restrictions on internet freedoms—have put forward proposed regulatory changes to the UN World Conference on International Telecommunications,” the group explained in an email.

“Internet governance decisions should be made in a transparent manner with genuine multi-stakeholder participation from civil society, governments, and the private sector,” the email added.

The AFL-CIO says it is standing in solidarity with international labor unions.

We call on United States government, the International Telecommunications Union and its member states to embrace transparency and reject any proposals that might expand ITU authority to areas of Internet governance that threaten the exercise of human rights online.”

The position may come as a surprise since the AFL-CIO formerly supported legislation to regulate the Internet, which came in the form of the Stop Online Privacy Act, known as SOPA.

The issue will come up at the week-long UN World Conference on International Telecommunications held in Dubai. Large telecommunications firms have largely supported regulatory action, while big Internet companies Google and Microsoft staunchly oppose it.

In a unanimous vote, the House of Representatives passed a resolution to  ”keep the Internet free from government control,” while Google has launched a separate anti-regulation campaign.

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67th Rant: Approaching The Fiscal Cliff 

By: Rick Bulow / Rick's Rants

As I had mentioned during the Debt Ceiling Debacle in my 20th Rant last year, this clip from Jerry Maguire where Rod Tidwell (Cuba Gooding Jr.) tells Jerry Maguire (Tom Cruise) to show him the money ( is quite fitting of what the American people (mostly from the Tea Party) are trying to tell the Democrats and Obama. Now, with it being 21 days, 16 hours, and 15 minutes until the new year, we are barreling toward the fiscal cliff and about to go over. Therefore, the American people are not only telling the Democrats but also the Republicans to do something to prevent us from going over the edge. Yesterday, President Obama had met with House Speaker John Boehner (Republican from the 8th Congressional District in Ohio and also Schmuck of the Week on Red, Right, and Blue for December 8, 2012) for the first time since the election to speak on a way to prevent us going over the fiscal cliff. You can find a good piece about the fiscal cliff from Robert Stacy McCain of The Other McCain.

We have not had a national budget in almost 1400 days, and every budget Obama had posited before Congress had not had a positive vote in the Senate, with even the Democrats opposing the Obama budget. When asked when the Senate would put forth their own budget. Max Baucus (Democrat from Montana who is Chairman of the Senate Budget Committee) and Harry Reid (Democrat from Nevada who is the Senate Majority Leader) both said that they are not required to put out a budget. These two are the main reasons why the Congress is in total disarray. The House had already passed a budget (thanks to Budget Chairman and 2012 Republican Vice-Presidential nominee Paul Ryan of Wisconsin’s 1st Congressional District) for the past three years and sent it on to the Senate, but Reid would not bring it to the floor for a vote.

Day after day we are inching closer not only to the fiscal cliff but also toward socialism. There is a saying that elections have consequences, and we are seeing it happening every second with Obama just sitting around fiddling. The last time a leader fiddled while his country was collapsing was Nero back in AD 64 when Rome was burning. The words of Alexander Tytler are ringing true.


"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.  It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury.
"From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.  These nations have progressed through this sequence:
"From bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to apathy;
from apathy to dependence;
from dependency back again into bondage."
Every day we are sinking back again into bondage. Right now we are in the selfishness to apathy or the apathy to dependence stage. We need to tell Obama, Boehner, Reid, and the other politicians to batten down and do something to fix this nation’s debt and prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff, or their time in charge will end in 2014 (all 435 House members including Boehner and 33 senate seats including 20 held by Democrats) and we the people will elect Congressmen and Senators who will actually know how to fix the economy.