How dare they...who do these 'supposed' men of the cloth and some 'wanna
be' and currently elected politicians think they are. And when you add in
some who in their minds only think of themselves as 'political celebrities' of sorts...you get persons who have set themselves up as judge and jury over a small
percentage of the American population.
And the examples I'm cited below are just the tip of an ever expanding iceberg.
Scott Esk, a Republican Tea Party candidate from Oklahoma, got into a
heated back-and-forth discussion on Facebook last year when he called for the
killing...YES killing...of gay Americans.
“I think we would be totally in the right to do it...That goes against
some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian,
but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very
remiss,” he said.
LIE!
Mississippi State Rep. Andy Gipson spewed on his Facebook page a
Bible verse from Leviticus that called for gays to be stoned to
death...then took it back after being chastised for his comment but
ONLY because he was called to task for it.
Pastor James David Manning said in a YouTube video that Christians
who do NOT attack gays are "advocating lawlessness. Stoning of the homos
is now in order. Stoning is still the law."
This said in the name of God all while Manning had the audacity to preach the word of God.
And when at this year's Rose Bowl Parade a gay wedding took place on
one of the floats, Pastor Dave Buehner strongly 'suggested' that
anti-gay activists be represented at these types of parades from here on.
Saying, “I wonder what the Rose Bowl parade would do if we had the
stoning of a homosexual along the parade just as an expression of free
speech and all that," his vileness seeps through with every word.
Just think about those words...really think about them...and if you don't find those words spewed by an ubber right supposedly Christian man
of the cloth pure hateful...as they call for what amounts to the execution of a gay person while Bible
verses are being quoted...then you are as guilty of the 'hate' as he is. And
this man also called for government officials to step in and arrest gays just for being who they are both before and after said parades would be going on.
And even sadder is that certain 'self-anointed' leaders of the Conservative
movement on Facebook and on the internet spew the same garbage but in a folksy homespun
sort of way, but their message of hate in the end is quite the same.
And all this hate is done in the name of the Evangelical Church...notice
I said church NOT...I repeat NOT...in the name of its followers...just
want to make that point clear. But also know that a certain percentage
of said church's followers also hold this anything but Godly view.
The wanted weapon of the 'haters'
Stoning...these people are actually calling for the stoning of fellow
Americans... calling for the MURDER of fellow Americans all because of a
mistranslation of a Biblical verse in the King James Bible...a
mistranslation by those who set the words down on paper...and please do
NOT claim that God dipped his quill pen in ink and guided the hand of
the transcribers for NO such thing happened as this Bible was written
for political reasons alone.
The King James Bible was commissioned by King James 1 in 1604, at the
Hampton Court Conference. Done like I said for political reasons...as in
to appease the very vocal yet highly educated Puritan minority...and to
counter what James himself considered 'supposed' inconsistencies in both
the Geneva and Bishops Court Bible, this one man took it upon himself to
disregard all versions that came before. Saying he, "Could never yet
see a Bible well translated in English; but I think that, of all, that
of Geneva is the worst. I wish some special pains were taken for an
uniform translation, which should be done by the best learned men in both
Universities, then reviewed by the Bishops, presented to the Privy
Council, lastly ratified by the Royal authority, to be read in the whole
Church, and none other," this man anointed himself the sole keeper and arbitrator of God's word.
"...ratified by Royal authority" meaning James 1...as King...could change
the transcribed words as he saw fit and as many times as he wanted...setting his
version above all others never mind all the mistranslations within his
version as well.
LIE!
Written by men...mistranslated by men...and approved by one man
alone...this Bible became the authority by which today's 'haters'...both
political and clerical... love to quote the words of God. And these
'haters' have so twisted the words "love the sinner, hate the sin" as to
condone MURDER in the name of God.
MURDER with the 'supposed' approval of God...the most grievous of all
sins is one I think God would be most unhappy with for we are supposed
to "love thy neighbor" NOT pick and choose which neighbor we are to do so with.
And these pastors... even more so than the politicians...most of whom just spew
the hate gay message for votes...are extremely dangerous as they
lure people into their churches...into their Facebook world...with words
from the Bible and then turn God's message of love and acceptance into
their own personal version of hate...and like lambs to the slaughter the
weak and the blind followers swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
And this call for 'death to all gays' is fueled on by folks who must
fear something in themselves for how can they honestly believe that a
mere two percent of the American population is more of a threat to our
nation than is Barack HUSSEIN Obama and his pen and phone...or that
islam and sharia must take a backseat to their self-perceived 'gay
problem'...and yet they do. And they do so by wanting to MURDER gay
people by stoning...stoning...just like the muslim bast*rds do to those
they don't like.
And these same folks worship at the feet of those who espouse this
hate...men who do so solely to line their own pockets by 'whoring'
themselves out to the almighty dollar and for Facebook 'numbers and
likes.' And these 'haters' consider themselves part of the Evangelical
Church... sounds more like the Evangelical mosque if you ask me.
TRUTH!
And NO true conservative...NO true American... would call for a
punishment that’s equated with sharia law...for sharia law is used as
punishment only in the muslim cesspools of the world and must NEVER be
allowed or condoned here in America. And always remember, our Declaration of Independence
says "all men are created equal"...ALL men...NOT just straight men or
white men or black men or yellow men or red men (and know that 'men' is
used in the all-encompassing sense so I do NOT want to hear the whining
of the women's libbers here)...meaning ALL men of ALL colors and ALL
sexual orientations.
So while stoning is indeed mentioned in the Bible, the Bible is NOT the rule of
law in our nation nor should it ever be, and true Conservatives and TEA
Partiers know this. True Conservatives and TEA Partiers alike are all
about the Constitution and the Constitution alone making us a nation of
secular laws...laws that encompass everyone NOT any one particular
religion's laws. Remember, our Founders while believers in God NEVER intended America to be a nation
of Biblical laws...as the Founders knew the Bible's laws were written to
a different people, in a different time, in a different culture...written thousands of years before the founding of this country.
And the TEA Party does NOT need those who think otherwise for the TEA
Party was NEVER intended to be about religion. The TEA Party was founded
upon the principals of 'Taxed Enough Already' and adherence to the rule of law that is the Constitution...period. And to those who are trying to make it
otherwise...you will destroy the TEA Party movement by trying to make it
so...but then again maybe that was your true goal right from the start.
LIE!
So to those who spew hate...to those who spew LIES...in God's name, you really need to keep your
hate to yourselves for you are going against the very country and its laws that you claim
to so love...against the very country that has afforded you the right to
spew your hate. Shame on you and shame on all those who join in that hate. I
wonder how God will judge you on your Judgment Day. Bet you'll be in for
one 'hell' of a rude awakening ...as in better pack light for it will be
hot where I believe you'll be going.
And to all of you who still believe after all I've said that gays should
be stoned to death, think of what Jesus said when confronted by an
angry crowd, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Bet none
of you 'haters' are sinless...just saying.
where do you get your comment "republican tea party candidate" when he clearly states that he is a libertarian? Giving lip service to the people, any people who would suggest Stoning is really not acceptable. Allowing Crazies print time is just as bad. I don't get this article, the bible does claim that homosexuality is an abomination/sin and that no one can get around. But as for singing that stoning, ala Islam/Sharia Law, punishment is the answer, I think not. Let us not forget that less than 2% of the population that is gay now gets to call the shots and demand the education of our children as to how to have "gay sex", and at ages that are totally inappropriate. That discussion would have served better.
First off, it's about 10% of the population that's gay. Secondly, please cite how/where gays are allowed to "call the shots and demand" that children are educated in how to have gay sex. I've never seen that on any curriculum. Oh, and you say "our children" as if gays don't/can't have children. They can and do.
He ran as a Republican even while claiming he is a libertarian...you need to check your facts before criticizing. And NO school I know tells children how to have gay sex...they just teach about different family make-ups. And BTW...NO one can be turned gay by seeing or learning anything...you are born either gay or straight...period.
While I am 100% to the right on issues of national security, the economy, our military and vets,on immigration as in ILLEGALS NO...LEGALS YES, on Israel, that climate change is pure unadulterated garbage (it's naturally occurring weather cycles and NOTHING more), on the rule of law being our Constitution, and the dangers islam and Obama pose to our country, etc., but as you can tell I am moderate on the social issues and I have NEVER hidden that fact.
I am NOT homophobic and I believe people are either born gay or born straight and NO amount of 'so-called' prayers can turn someone gay into someone straight. And heaven forbid but I have gay friends much to the chagrin of some on the right.
And while I believe in God I am NOT one of those right wing religious fanatics...a Bible thumper if you will...as this is 2014 NOT the year one.
I believe in and support stem cell research...I believe the Earth is 4.5 billion years old and I believe in evolution. I also believe in the morning after pill as it prevents conception which is the total opposite of abortion, and I believe that abortion must be allowed in cases of rape, incest, or when the life of the mother is at stake but that abortion must NOT be used as birth control, and I am dead set against late term abortion.
I am a TEApublican who supports the original premise of the TEA party as in Taxed Enough Already and I believe religion must stay out of politics as our Founders intended. A belief in God is one thing...NO one is denying anyone that....but forcing ones religion on others is quite another...in fact that's the reason many came to this country to begin with all those many years ago.
And I hate the haters who spread their vile condemnation of others as if it's gospel truth. We have the right to live as we chose in this country as long as we don't hurt others in doing so and these haters who call for the stoning of gays are vile...out and out vile and I will call them out NO matter which party they belong to.
So while we differ on many issues my liberal troll we do agree on some things as well...and that's a start on two opposing sides finding a common ground to help save our country from those out to destroy her...whether they be on the left or on the right.
To begin with unless you have absolute proof, beyond a shadow of doubt, 'HOW DARE YOU' question the WORD of GOD! You need to take some of your own medicine Diane, for YOU are also being judgemental and GOD is the ONLY one that can judge. Are YOU without sin that you can cast the first stone? I think not. Your opinion matters not to me, however, you are spewing hatred when there is enough hatred in this country as it is. Jesus said to Hate the sin and love the sinner, or had you yourself forgotten that. May God have mercy on Your soul!
I so agree. These people want the government out of their religion but want their religion in our government...hypocrites. They want it both ways and anyway our Founders set up our Constitution with NO mention of God, Jesus, or the like for a reason. And NOWHERE do I say that anyone should abandon their religion...just keep it out of government. Guess some people just cannot read the written word.
Diane is right to be mad......the Christian church has no authority over those outside the church membership.....it was under the old covenant that "Israel" was commanded to stone sinners.....that was never commanded in the Christian church.
However, that being said, homosexuality is still an "abomination" in the eyes of God and 1Corinthians 6:9 makes it clear that there will be no homosexuals in heaven.....and no liars, drunks, thieves or swindlers....and it goes on to declare that there is hope for all of those people because GOD CHANGES HEARTS AND LIVES.
The Christian church nor any church or temple has legal authority over anybody in this country. The rule of law in our land is the Constitution NOT the Bible...period
where do you get your comment "republican tea party candidate" when he clearly states that he is a libertarian? Giving lip service to the people, any people who would suggest Stoning is really not acceptable. Allowing Crazies print time is just as bad. I don't get this article, the bible does claim that homosexuality is an abomination/sin and that no one can get around. But as for singing that stoning, ala Islam/Sharia Law, punishment is the answer, I think not.
ReplyDeleteLet us not forget that less than 2% of the population that is gay now gets to call the shots and demand the education of our children as to how to have "gay sex", and at ages that are totally inappropriate. That discussion would have served better.
Hi Kathi,
DeleteFirst off, it's about 10% of the population that's gay. Secondly, please cite how/where gays are allowed to "call the shots and demand" that children are educated in how to have gay sex. I've never seen that on any curriculum. Oh, and you say "our children" as if gays don't/can't have children. They can and do.
He ran as a Republican even while claiming he is a libertarian...you need to check your facts before criticizing. And NO school I know tells children how to have gay sex...they just teach about different family make-ups. And BTW...NO one can be turned gay by seeing or learning anything...you are born either gay or straight...period.
DeleteDiane,
DeleteI'm kinda blown away right now, and don't know what to say. I agree with you. The end must truly be near....
If you and I can agree on a topic, surely you must be able to see how pig-headedly ignorant some of your fellow TPers are on some issues?
Respectfully,
Your Liberal Troll
To my liberal troll,
DeleteWhile I am 100% to the right on issues of national security, the economy, our military and vets,on immigration as in ILLEGALS NO...LEGALS YES, on Israel, that climate change is pure unadulterated garbage (it's naturally occurring weather cycles and NOTHING more), on the rule of law being our Constitution, and the dangers islam and Obama pose to our country, etc., but as you can tell I am moderate on the social issues and I have NEVER hidden that fact.
I am NOT homophobic and I believe people are either born gay or born straight and NO amount of 'so-called' prayers can turn someone gay into someone straight. And heaven forbid but I have gay friends much to the chagrin of some on the right.
And while I believe in God I am NOT one of those right wing religious fanatics...a Bible thumper if you will...as this is 2014 NOT the year one.
I believe in and support stem cell research...I believe the Earth is 4.5 billion years old and I believe in evolution. I also believe in the morning after pill as it prevents conception which is the total opposite of abortion, and I believe that abortion must be allowed in cases of rape, incest, or when the life of the mother is at stake but that abortion must NOT be used as birth control, and I am dead set against late term abortion.
I am a TEApublican who supports the original premise of the TEA party as in Taxed Enough Already and I believe religion must stay out of politics as our Founders intended. A belief in God is one thing...NO one is denying anyone that....but forcing ones religion on others is quite another...in fact that's the reason many came to this country to begin with all those many years ago.
And I hate the haters who spread their vile condemnation of others as if it's gospel truth. We have the right to live as we chose in this country as long as we don't hurt others in doing so and these haters who call for the stoning of gays are vile...out and out vile and I will call them out NO matter which party they belong to.
So while we differ on many issues my liberal troll we do agree on some things as well...and that's a start on two opposing sides finding a common ground to help save our country from those out to destroy her...whether they be on the left or on the right.
Respectfully,
An American Patriot
.. You are publishing an opinion and spreading negativity upon this man based merely on this photo which could be photoshopped ?? .. Seriously ??
ReplyDeleteOh please...google him and you'll see all his hate videos...which he proudly puts up on YouTube or go to his church site...they;re all there and more.
DeleteTo begin with unless you have absolute proof, beyond a shadow of doubt, 'HOW DARE YOU' question the WORD of GOD! You need to take some of your own medicine Diane, for YOU are also being judgemental and GOD is the ONLY one that can judge. Are YOU without sin that you can cast the first stone? I think not. Your opinion matters not to me, however, you are spewing hatred when there is enough hatred in this country as it is. Jesus said to Hate the sin and love the sinner, or had you yourself forgotten that. May God have mercy on Your soul!
ReplyDeleteLOL at you and your judgmental God.
DeleteYou're the type of person Diane wrote this for. You keep your religion out of politics and vice/versa, everything will be a lot better.
I so agree. These people want the government out of their religion but want their religion in our government...hypocrites. They want it both ways and anyway our Founders set up our Constitution with NO mention of God, Jesus, or the like for a reason. And NOWHERE do I say that anyone should abandon their religion...just keep it out of government. Guess some people just cannot read the written word.
DeleteGoon piece Diane needs to be addressed , as you did . Couldn't agree more ...
ReplyDeleteThanks.
DeleteDiane is right to be mad......the Christian church has no authority over those outside the church membership.....it was under the old covenant that "Israel" was commanded to stone sinners.....that was never commanded in the Christian church.
ReplyDeleteHowever, that being said, homosexuality is still an "abomination" in the eyes of God and 1Corinthians 6:9 makes it clear that there will be no homosexuals in heaven.....and no liars, drunks, thieves or swindlers....and it goes on to declare that there is hope for all of those people because GOD CHANGES HEARTS AND LIVES.
The Christian church nor any church or temple has legal authority over anybody in this country. The rule of law in our land is the Constitution NOT the Bible...period
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