Op-ed: Religion and politics...one in His name and one of winning an election By:
Diane Sori
The hate mongers are out in force...full force...as they try to make the
2014 mid-terms a rallying cry around the social issues...around
religious issues...and know that if they succeed all will be lost again.
The most important goal for the November mid-term election is to retake
the Senate and increase our numbers in the House... NOTHING...I repeat
NOTHING...is more important than that...NO local race...NO state
race...NO social issue...NOTHING... because if we don't retake the Senate
it's over...period.
And to that end to win we need numbers...BIG numbers. And to get those
numbers we need to pull in any and all who want to see our country
return to the rule of law known as the Constitution, and herein enters
the oh-so dirty word that the ubber religious far right fear the most...inclusion.
Inclusion...a word we Conservatives can NO longer turn our backs on for
where once some in our party pushed away specific groups of people if
they did NOT meet their set-in-stone standard of 'norm' and if they
did NOT meet and practice their specific view of religious dogma...all
they need to do is hark back to November 2102 when 'certain' pastors of
name bought into the Chislam nonsense and told their congregations to
stay home and NOT vote for Mitt Romney simply because he was a Mormon.
"Better a muslim that we know than a Mormon we don't know" they said,
and three million blind followers heeded their call and did NOT vote or
worse...voted third party out of protest or wrote down the name Jesus
Christ on the ballot... making themselves a laughing stock because if
memory serves me correctly neither God the Father nor His Son ever wanted to
hold political office.
I sure hope they're happy with what they helped get us because the rest of us sure the hell are NOT.
And these are the very same people who now want to force a repeat of our
2012 defeat. And why...because of focusing on the 'social
issues' instead of focusing on the dangers perpetrated by the traitorous
muslim in the White House and his infamous 'pen and phone'...instead of
focusing on an American economy in the toilet...instead of focusing on a
misguided foreign policy spinning dangerously out of control...instead
of focusing on our borders being overrun by an ILLEGAL
invasion...instead of focusing on jobs creation to put Americans back to
work...instead of focusing on the rising price of gas, oil, and
foodstuffs...instead of focusing on the growing nightmare that is
ObamaCare...instead of focusing on the loss of our personal
freedoms or on the defamation done to our vets...instead of focusing on all that and so much more they instead
willingly and knowingly choose to focus on the social issues of
someone's personal religious beliefs and/or someone's personal lifestyle
choice.
Yet these very same social issue oriented people want government out of their
religion yet want their personal views of religion in government...but
guess what folks...you cannot have it both ways.
These
are the same people who quiver in fear over a mere two percent of the
population simply because a Biblical passage or two has been taken out
of context in the translating from the ancient Hebrew to Aramaic to
Greek to Latin to English. Yet these same people blindly worship at the
alter of religious whores...for lack of a better word...who use religion
and God for their own personal monetary gain.
These are the same people who ignore science...proven medical
science...because they're afraid to use common sense and logic as they
insert themselves into the privacy of someone's bedroom yet I can
guarantee that they would NOT like it known that perhaps what some of
them do in their bedrooms would be considered sinful to others...as well as to
God.
Yet these people that I speak of are NOT bad people by any means, they
are just people who are NOT tolerant of any who do NOT believe as they
do...who do NOT live as they do...who do NOT worship as they do...who do
NOT hold the same Biblical beliefs as they do...the same people who
will smile sweetly to your face and then defame and slander you the
minute you turn your back on them. And that is so sad as this very group of
people are in and of themselves a minority within the larger group of
followers of Christianity yet they are as vocal...as in your face...as the
very groups of people they find so damnful.
These
are the same group of people who don't care for Jews or truly care
about Israel being a Jewish state...who don't care for Roman Catholics
or
the Holy Roman Catholic Church...who don't care for Mormons...who don't
care for those
in the Orthodox Churches nor for the many Protestant denominations who
are NOT 'born again' as they deem one must be to enter the Kingdom of
God... and they especially don't care for gays in any of these
denominations even if those gays are fellows in Christ.
And here's a shocker for those social issue...religious issues only
people... 23% of Americans while calling themselves of a certain religion
do NOT consider themselves religious at all...do NOT practice their
faith at all. And a new survey by the
Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life shows the shifts taking place in
America's religious landscape, most notably in the fact that 28% of
American adults have left the faith in which they were raised in favor
of another religion or NO...yes NO...religion at all.
Note
it is said they are NOT of religion but nowhere did it say they are
without God in their hearts...as in a personal relationship with
God...for they are simply without ties to any particular religious
dogma. And what is religious dogma and tenets but words set down by men
who claim to have heard the voice of God. And
like it or NOT religion in and of itself is indeed a fabrication of man
NOT a
must-have demanded by God for God knows one can believe and honor Him
without all the trappings put upon Him by mere mortal men.
Also shown in the survey is that America is on the verge of becoming a
minority Protestant nation as the number of Americans who report
themselves members of Protestant denominations now stands at barely 51%.
And the Protestant population as a whole is fragmented and divided as
it's comprised of hundreds of different denominations loosely grouped
around three distinct religious traditions...Evangelical
Protestant churches (26.3% of the overall adult population), mainline
Protestant churches (18.1%), and historically black Protestant churches
(6.9%). And the Midwest most closely resembles the religious makeup of the
overall American population. The South, by a wide margin, has the heaviest
concentration of Evangelical Protestant churches. The
Northeast has the greatest concentration of Catholics, and the West has
the largest proportion of unaffiliated people, including the largest
proportion of atheists and agnostics.
So as religion per se and its dogma loses favor in America that in NO way means Americans are
losing favor with or faith in God as religion and God are NOT one and the same, and I
think God would frown upon all the damage religious dogma and its hate have done in
His name.
And don't you think God would want a strong America united under Him
based on faith of the heart NOT a nation based on any one particular
religious dogma...on the dogma of one-fourth of one quarter of the
population. And don't you think
God would include in his ranks...would welcome with open arms...any and
everyone who wants to join in the fight
for our country's very survival...everyone from the staunches ultra
right conservatives, to the new breed of socially moderate Republicans,
to those in the TEA Party, to once frowned upon minorities, because even
God knows that November is about numbers and NOTHING else.
And don't you think God knows that elections are NOT won by imploding
ourselves from within by trying to exclude those, amongst others, who
might be different than ourselves and for NO other reason than lifestyle
or in how they choose to pray to the one true living God of the Christians and Jews.
And don't you think God knows there's a huge difference between federal
issues and state's issues and that the social issues are state's issues
and have NO business being part of this November's election for if we
make them so even God knows we will lose. And don't you think God knows our
Constitution creates a government based on 'federalism,' as in the
sharing of power between the national, state, and local governments. And
don't you think God knows that while each of the 50 states has its own constitution, all provisions of
state constitutions must comply with the U.S. Constitution... with the
U.S. Constitution NOT with the words of the Bible...and those who set
themselves up as judge and jury over others need to understand and
accept that as fact.
And
lastly, don't you think God knows true people of faith...of any
faith and any orientation...who believe in the Constitution and all it
stands for want to see our country survive these disastrous Obama years
intact and whole as much as we can. And to that affect we need to
welcome all those of any religion...of any lifestyle choice...into the
Conservative fold for we need their numbers to pull those 'R' levers
this November as the issue of our
country's survival is bigger than some of us being offended by what two
consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom or by some having
their noses up in the air to those who do NOT believe as they do.
So while NO one is trying to take away anyone's personal religious
beliefs or even say that the social issues are NOT important...they are
but in their proper place...what is being said is that this
November...and again in 2016...it's about inclusion folks but above all
else it's numbers and numbers alone that will turn the tide of this
nation.
You sound like Rand Paul . The first republican that isn't a bigot . We should not stand up for social issues like the life of babies , the sanctity of the bible word marriage because we want to woo democrats to become republicans ? It sounds more like your asking republicans to all turn into democrats , regardless of their personal belief . This must be the brainwashing democrats got to turn them all into hate seething communists that we now want in our party ? Democrats win because they are ice cold . I draw a sharp contrast and would rather my leader be hot or cold , I will know whether to support or oppose . Lukewarm Mitt Romney may be the perfect blend . Yes he would have given us the Wall Street bailout like George W. Bush who perfectly placed the tee for Obamanation . He didn't believe that conservative principles really work either , and governed to suit the Romney / McCain standard , make liberal meme's ours ! My first qualification is when they speak , they say something besides I'm a severe conservative but liberalism is what really works . I would rather George W , Mitt Romney and John McCain just be democrats and lose 3 more numbers than edit the bible to replace the word abomination with marriage .I would that anyone who would compromise on that just go. Be democrats ... If conservatism is "dogma" why hijack " patriot " ? The original patriots did not agree with you on selling out on principle , or it would be the British monarchy selling us out instead of the democratic party with the help of a few power RINO's . I think John McCain , Mitt Romney and Hillary Clinton would stand up and clap though .
You know…I rather agree with the libtard that frequents this page quite frequently, we do have a lot of Neanderthals here!
Diane said if we lose this election, it is OVER! Do you understand the word OVER?
Look…let me translate what Diane said, and if I say something amiss, then Diane can correct me:
Diane wants us to focus more on getting a Republican in Congress or in the Presidency than to focus on things that divide us like gay marriages or abortion. Isn’t that a reasonable request? Mitt Romney would have REPEALED OBAMACARE!!!
Romney was not for gay marriage; he was not for abortion on demand (only in cases of rape, incest, or the life of the mother). I can guarantee you that 90% of the Republicans feel the same way.
Obama has broken every promise that went out of his mouth! I would have been happy with ANY republican to be president over Obama! You can read whatever you want, but Diane said if we don’t win the next election, it is OVER!
By OVER I mean OVER!!! You and the other bigoted people can serve under your new masters who will use your tax money to give to hoes to breed more hoes!
JUST VOTE REPUBLICAN…CAN YOU DO THAT! OTHERWISE WE ARE F*CKED! GOT IT?
Oh...by the way...if you do nothing, you actually are voting democrat! For god's sake WAKE UP!
Oh dear...FYI is totally clueless...first, I cannot stomach Rand Paul nor can I stomach 'haters.' And I stand by my convictions that the 'social issues' must be put on the back burner for now or we WILL lose again. And BTW, 'social issues' belong on the state level NOT on the federal level.
Hey Diane, Just to clarify, when you say "'social issues' must be put on the back burner for now", you mean just for a little while, right? We can get back to hating gays, minorities, and women who want reproductive rights after the election, can't we??
Mitt Romney supported Romneycare, the bailouts and he's moderated on a bunch of things since he ran. He wants to run again. He is a great businessman and he should be consulting somewhere and raking in millions to support candidates who are distinctively different from these rinos who are part of the problem. Do you really think Orin Hatch, Thad Cochran and Lindsey Graham will shrink government? I don't. Hence Dave Brat. We need real conservative and libertarians with an emphasis on economic issues without a complete abandonment of our Christian underpinnings. Sorry, Mormonism is cult-like and was just another reason to let go of Mitt. Yes, he would have been better. He would have liked America. But so did W and he got us into an expensive, useless war and spent as much as any republican ever trying to make the media and the liberals like him. It didn't work. They hated him. Let's elect people that will reform for real and be hated because they want to save America.
As a Mormon, I take issue with what you just said about Mormons being “cult like”; we are NOT a cult! However, no matter how offensive what you just said is to ME, Diane is right! If we keep dividing ourselves along religious lines, or RINO lines, we will lose not only the battle, but the entire war.
Mitt Romney said he would repeal Obamacare, and as a fellow Mormon I believe his word is worth something! You don’t have to believe anything you don’t want to, but I sincerely believe Mitt Romney would have put us on the right path, and we would not be invaded by Central American kids right now. Mitt Romney is NOT running! I don’t know where you came up with that? He lost handsomely because of bigots such as yourself! I believe it is clear to him that many in America are not ready for someone who is not their particular brand of religion. As I remember, Huckabee and Santorum were bringing up Mitt’s religion nightly to get a few votes their way from people like you, and it worked. A good man lost because if his belief, just as Mormons have always been persecuted. (Governor Boggs of Missouri put a “death” warrant on the heads of Mormons because of bigotry.) Has any other religious group had a death warrant on their heads simply because they believed a certain way? No.
OK…that is all history my friend! I will be going to the voting booth to vote for a man or woman. Chances are they will not be Mormon! They might even be atheist. Even after Huckabee made fun of Mormon’s so-called magic underwear, the Mormon people would vote for his over the democrats.
My final words to you: this entire message from Diane was to people such as yourself. We need to unite against the democrats. Don’t you understand there will be no America if the democrats win again? The republic is hanging by a thread now. Look’ even though I am Mormon, we both surely agree on conservative values. I don’t have any animosity to the way you believe; that is what America is all about. Can’t you put aside whatever animosity you hold to give a republican a chance? If not, then I wash my hands of people like you. You will have gotten what you paid for!
Grrrrr....Mormonism is NOT NOT NOT a cult...period. islam is a cult and in NO WAY is Mormonism like islam. And I find it even sadder that those 'supposedly' on our side would say such a vile thing. It was my honor to volunteer on BOTH of Mitt Romney's presidential campaigns and he would have been a great president...and he was right on all accords as everything he said has come to pass.
Diane…you are working with some pretty stupid people! Why do you even bother?
You ask them to put aside their lofty bigotry for a moment and vote for our side and what do you get?
Mitt Romney lost because of dumbasses like the one’s who frequent your blog! What is truly amazing is the fact they don’t even know they chose Obama by not voting.
I am truly sorry, but I think this is already lost. The only satisfaction I get is seeing radio hosts like Mark Levin –who used to rage nightly against Romney- eat his humble pie. I hope your readers like communism because that is what they are going to get! I hope they eating their humble pie as well!
Oh…they say Romney was like Obama: WRONG!!!
He was a successful businessman and a former successful governor of the state of Massachusetts. Romney’s healthcare plan was for Massachusetts because the people of Massachusetts wanted it (and IT was legal); in addition, Obamacare has over 2000 pages compared to Romney’s plan that had a little over 70 pages.
Romney was not for amnesty!
Your reader claimed he would have voted for the bailout (so would everyone else, because the contra would have been TOTAL meltdown dumbasses.) Let me put it this way, had they not voted for the bailout, there WOULD have been a depression!
Other than the fact Romney was Mormon, I don’t see what he said he would do was not along with mainstream conservatism!
Diane, I am sorry, but some of your readers are truly stupid! How is all that hope and change working out guys?
I will say one more thing and be done! I have VOTED in EACH election knowing FULL well I would lose!!! I live in a VERY liberal town.
I have voted for men I did not particularly care for running for president, but I chose him over Obama! With McCain I held my nose tight!
Look people...Can't you see that what Diane is saying is correct? If you vote for a 3rd party, you WILL lose; if you choose not to vote, you gave a vote to the other side.
No matter who is chosen on the republican side, give that person a chance. I can think of some pretty back republicans, but not any as bad as Castro and Clinton. Although the republicans are not perfect, they are all that is left that separates the Constitution from chaos. Please vote! If I said anything to offend anyone, I am sorry, but this attitude pisses me off!
EXACTLY,,,any vote for a third party candidate is a vote that goes to the Dems...and anyone who stays home and doesn't vote their vote goes to the Dems. People need to understand November is about numbers and NOTHING more...period. And anyway NO third party candidate has a snowballs chance in hell of winning anything major. And BTW, I will have to hold my nose when it comes time to voting for my state's governor but I will do it for all the reasons I stated in my article.
You sound like Rand Paul . The first republican that isn't a bigot . We should not stand up for social issues like the life of babies , the sanctity of the bible word marriage because we want to woo democrats to become republicans ? It sounds more like your asking republicans to all turn into democrats , regardless of their personal belief . This must be the brainwashing democrats got to turn them all into hate seething communists that we now want in our party ? Democrats win because they are ice cold . I draw a sharp contrast and would rather my leader be hot or cold , I will know whether to support or oppose . Lukewarm Mitt Romney may be the perfect blend . Yes he would have given us the Wall Street bailout like George W. Bush who perfectly placed the tee for Obamanation . He didn't believe that conservative principles really work either , and governed to suit the Romney / McCain standard , make liberal meme's ours ! My first qualification is when they speak , they say something besides I'm a severe conservative but liberalism is what really works . I would rather George W , Mitt Romney and John McCain just be democrats and lose 3 more numbers than edit the bible to replace the word abomination with marriage .I would that anyone who would compromise on that just go. Be democrats ... If conservatism is "dogma" why hijack " patriot " ? The original patriots did not agree with you on selling out on principle , or it would be the British monarchy selling us out instead of the democratic party with the help of a few power RINO's . I think John McCain , Mitt Romney and Hillary Clinton would stand up and clap though .
ReplyDeleteYou know…I rather agree with the libtard that frequents this page quite frequently, we do have a lot of Neanderthals here!
DeleteDiane said if we lose this election, it is OVER! Do you understand the word OVER?
Look…let me translate what Diane said, and if I say something amiss, then Diane can correct me:
Diane wants us to focus more on getting a Republican in Congress or in the Presidency than to focus on things that divide us like gay marriages or abortion. Isn’t that a reasonable request? Mitt Romney would have REPEALED OBAMACARE!!!
Romney was not for gay marriage; he was not for abortion on demand (only in cases of rape, incest, or the life of the mother). I can guarantee you that 90% of the Republicans feel the same way.
Obama has broken every promise that went out of his mouth! I would have been happy with ANY republican to be president over Obama! You can read whatever you want, but Diane said if we don’t win the next election, it is OVER!
By OVER I mean OVER!!! You and the other bigoted people can serve under your new masters who will use your tax money to give to hoes to breed more hoes!
JUST VOTE REPUBLICAN…CAN YOU DO THAT! OTHERWISE WE ARE F*CKED! GOT IT?
Oh...by the way...if you do nothing, you actually are voting democrat! For god's sake WAKE UP!
Point blank...if we lose the Senate it is indeed over...NO ifs, ands, or buts.
DeleteOh dear...FYI is totally clueless...first, I cannot stomach Rand Paul nor can I stomach 'haters.' And I stand by my convictions that the 'social issues' must be put on the back burner for now or we WILL lose again. And BTW, 'social issues' belong on the state level NOT on the federal level.
DeleteHey Diane,
DeleteJust to clarify, when you say "'social issues' must be put on the back burner for now", you mean just for a little while, right? We can get back to hating gays, minorities, and women who want reproductive rights after the election, can't we??
If you can't tell by my writing that I am more moderate on the social issues then there is NO hope for you.
DeleteMitt Romney supported Romneycare, the bailouts and he's moderated on a bunch of things since he ran. He wants to run again. He is a great businessman and he should be consulting somewhere and raking in millions to support candidates who are distinctively different from these rinos who are part of the problem. Do you really think Orin Hatch, Thad Cochran and Lindsey Graham will shrink government? I don't. Hence Dave Brat. We need real conservative and libertarians with an emphasis on economic issues without a complete abandonment of our Christian underpinnings. Sorry, Mormonism is cult-like and was just another reason to let go of Mitt. Yes, he would have been better. He would have liked America. But so did W and he got us into an expensive, useless war and spent as much as any republican ever trying to make the media and the liberals like him. It didn't work. They hated him. Let's elect people that will reform for real and be hated because they want to save America.
ReplyDeleteAs a Mormon, I take issue with what you just said about Mormons being “cult like”; we are NOT a cult! However, no matter how offensive what you just said is to ME, Diane is right! If we keep dividing ourselves along religious lines, or RINO lines, we will lose not only the battle, but the entire war.
DeleteMitt Romney said he would repeal Obamacare, and as a fellow Mormon I believe his word is worth something! You don’t have to believe anything you don’t want to, but I sincerely believe Mitt Romney would have put us on the right path, and we would not be invaded by Central American kids right now. Mitt Romney is NOT running! I don’t know where you came up with that? He lost handsomely because of bigots such as yourself! I believe it is clear to him that many in America are not ready for someone who is not their particular brand of religion. As I remember, Huckabee and Santorum were bringing up Mitt’s religion nightly to get a few votes their way from people like you, and it worked. A good man lost because if his belief, just as Mormons have always been persecuted. (Governor Boggs of Missouri put a “death” warrant on the heads of Mormons because of bigotry.) Has any other religious group had a death warrant on their heads simply because they believed a certain way? No.
OK…that is all history my friend! I will be going to the voting booth to vote for a man or woman. Chances are they will not be Mormon! They might even be atheist. Even after Huckabee made fun of Mormon’s so-called magic underwear, the Mormon people would vote for his over the democrats.
My final words to you: this entire message from Diane was to people such as yourself. We need to unite against the democrats. Don’t you understand there will be no America if the democrats win again? The republic is hanging by a thread now. Look’ even though I am Mormon, we both surely agree on conservative values. I don’t have any animosity to the way you believe; that is what America is all about. Can’t you put aside whatever animosity you hold to give a republican a chance? If not, then I wash my hands of people like you. You will have gotten what you paid for!
Grrrrr....Mormonism is NOT NOT NOT a cult...period. islam is a cult and in NO WAY is Mormonism like islam. And I find it even sadder that those 'supposedly' on our side would say such a vile thing. It was my honor to volunteer on BOTH of Mitt Romney's presidential campaigns and he would have been a great president...and he was right on all accords as everything he said has come to pass.
DeleteDiane…you are working with some pretty stupid people! Why do you even bother?
ReplyDeleteYou ask them to put aside their lofty bigotry for a moment and vote for our side and what do you get?
Mitt Romney lost because of dumbasses like the one’s who frequent your blog! What is truly amazing is the fact they don’t even know they chose Obama by not voting.
I am truly sorry, but I think this is already lost. The only satisfaction I get is seeing radio hosts like Mark Levin –who used to rage nightly against Romney- eat his humble pie. I hope your readers like communism because that is what they are going to get! I hope they eating their humble pie as well!
Oh…they say Romney was like Obama: WRONG!!!
He was a successful businessman and a former successful governor of the state of Massachusetts. Romney’s healthcare plan was for Massachusetts because the people of Massachusetts wanted it (and IT was legal); in addition, Obamacare has over 2000 pages compared to Romney’s plan that had a little over 70 pages.
Romney was not for amnesty!
Your reader claimed he would have voted for the bailout (so would everyone else, because the contra would have been TOTAL meltdown dumbasses.) Let me put it this way, had they not voted for the bailout, there WOULD have been a depression!
Other than the fact Romney was Mormon, I don’t see what he said he would do was not along with mainstream conservatism!
Diane, I am sorry, but some of your readers are truly stupid! How is all that hope and change working out guys?
Some are haters hiding in conservative clothing...or worse...trolls.
DeleteI will say one more thing and be done! I have VOTED in EACH election knowing FULL well I would lose!!! I live in a VERY liberal town.
ReplyDeleteI have voted for men I did not particularly care for running for president, but I chose him over Obama! With McCain I held my nose tight!
Look people...Can't you see that what Diane is saying is correct? If you vote for a 3rd party, you WILL lose; if you choose not to vote, you gave a vote to the other side.
No matter who is chosen on the republican side, give that person a chance. I can think of some pretty back republicans, but not any as bad as Castro and Clinton. Although the republicans are not perfect, they are all that is left that separates the Constitution from chaos. Please vote! If I said anything to offend anyone, I am sorry, but this attitude pisses me off!
EXACTLY,,,any vote for a third party candidate is a vote that goes to the Dems...and anyone who stays home and doesn't vote their vote goes to the Dems. People need to understand November is about numbers and NOTHING more...period. And anyway NO third party candidate has a snowballs chance in hell of winning anything major. And BTW, I will have to hold my nose when it comes time to voting for my state's governor but I will do it for all the reasons I stated in my article.
ReplyDeleteIn other words, vote for the Republican, NOT the person you think will do the best job!!!
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